My Ain Folk The Faunt & Fants of Ireland
About the Faunt and Fants of Ireland,France and UK. One-Name Guild Surname. faunt@one-name.org
Monday, June 10, 2019
Galbally Limerick - 5 years ago ~
Dave Font and I checked with Bernie Cullen of the YDNA I2a group about Big Y for Faunt Fant Faunt men
"no good genealogy reason for any Font/Fant etc to do a Big Y at this moment.
Five years ago, we didn't really know if the Fonts were connected to other Irish or English families, or if they had a more recent connection to families from continental Europe. Now that other families have done Big Ys and SNP testing, we can say that the Fonts aren't connected to any known Irish or British families.
There are many PF4189+ PF4190- families from England and Scotland, and they belong to several different branches below I-PF4189, and we can say that these families have been in Britain for 2,000 or 3,000 years or longer. This is something we discovered only from Big Ys.
But the Fonts are PF4189+ PF4190+ and we can say that there are no other likely British or Irish families in this group, instead PF4189+ PF4190+ includes a large portion of the men in Sardinia, and it includes a few men from places like Germany and France.
If a Font does a Big Y, he will learn exactly how many SNPs he shares with some anonymous men in Sardinia, and he will learn approximately when his common ancestor with these men lived."
I'm proud of how far we have come since the first test with a Faunt and a Fant in 2005.
Wednesday, July 25, 2018
John McDermot has found in this book Irish Exchequer Payments, 1270-1376, by Connolly this: "The father of the justice Walter (not the justiciar, but working for him- the justiciar was the governor of the country, a position held from the mid-13th century by knights connected with the king’s military household; paid about £500 p.a., from which he paid others- there might be a strong connection between the justiciar of the time & Walter Lenfaunt) was John, who also had a son Adam."
So we know of the 2 Walter L'enfaunts living in Ireland at that time that one is Walter son of John and one is Walter son of Walter..for sure, both living in Kildare..
And he says this : "If we could find some documentation regarding grants to the family in Ireland. I think it begins with the custodianship of Kildare Castle by Walter. Adam helped in this, while Walter did other duties in the king’s pay."
and this: " Walter Lenfaunt was paid £20 p.a. as the Keeper of Kildare Castle from 1299 on. The money was paid to his brother Adam Lenfaunt that year. In 1302, Walter handed the castle over to Albert de Kenley on the king’s instructions. Though he is mentioned in relation to the castle 1300-4.
Richard Lenfaunt was paid £10 that year.
Walter was also paid for horses & arms used in the king’s service. This in 1282 (also in 1275-6). The King made him a gift of £33 in 1285. He also was granted lands formerly held by Henry (son of Simon) de Rocheford. This in 1301-2.
In 1308-9, Walter was pressed into service in Richard de Burgh’s expedition to Scotland in the king’s service.
There is a whole series of annual payments to Walter as a justice of the Justiciar’s court; from 1286-91 he was paid £180. On overage, he was paid £20 p.a. He was an itinerant justice also. He was in Co. Tipperary in 1305, in Co. Meath in 1302 [the index jumps about a bit].
Stephen, Bishop of Waterford, justiciar, for whom Walter Lenfaunt had a tally of £19.
William, Bishop of Emly & Walter Lenfaunt had a gift from the king of £28.
Stephen, the justiciar, from whom William La Faunt had a tally. This in 1282. "
I can see that those things are in this book but cannot search it..
James Fant will like that Walter indeed went to Scotland..
So what it may be is that John Lenfant in 1218 in Buckinghamshire is his grandfather, McDermot speculates..
The family is in Kildare and nearby Offaly.. John says this also "1297 Offaly..40 cows of the sister of Walter Lenfaunt robbed. Robbers fled & were followed [this is a serious theft, in comparison to the last – Walter & his immediate family were the wealthiest, plainly"
In Kildare as we discussed before is Walter son of John, Walter son of Walter, John Sr., Thomas, Adam, Alesia Lenfaunt le Gras and William.. Also Gilbert Lenfaunt the goose and chicken thief who we hope is a very distant relative..
So we know of the 2 Walter L'enfaunts living in Ireland at that time that one is Walter son of John and one is Walter son of Walter..for sure, both living in Kildare..
And he says this : "If we could find some documentation regarding grants to the family in Ireland. I think it begins with the custodianship of Kildare Castle by Walter. Adam helped in this, while Walter did other duties in the king’s pay."
and this: " Walter Lenfaunt was paid £20 p.a. as the Keeper of Kildare Castle from 1299 on. The money was paid to his brother Adam Lenfaunt that year. In 1302, Walter handed the castle over to Albert de Kenley on the king’s instructions. Though he is mentioned in relation to the castle 1300-4.
Richard Lenfaunt was paid £10 that year.
Walter was also paid for horses & arms used in the king’s service. This in 1282 (also in 1275-6). The King made him a gift of £33 in 1285. He also was granted lands formerly held by Henry (son of Simon) de Rocheford. This in 1301-2.
In 1308-9, Walter was pressed into service in Richard de Burgh’s expedition to Scotland in the king’s service.
There is a whole series of annual payments to Walter as a justice of the Justiciar’s court; from 1286-91 he was paid £180. On overage, he was paid £20 p.a. He was an itinerant justice also. He was in Co. Tipperary in 1305, in Co. Meath in 1302 [the index jumps about a bit].
Stephen, Bishop of Waterford, justiciar, for whom Walter Lenfaunt had a tally of £19.
William, Bishop of Emly & Walter Lenfaunt had a gift from the king of £28.
Stephen, the justiciar, from whom William La Faunt had a tally. This in 1282. "
I can see that those things are in this book but cannot search it..
James Fant will like that Walter indeed went to Scotland..
So what it may be is that John Lenfant in 1218 in Buckinghamshire is his grandfather, McDermot speculates..
The family is in Kildare and nearby Offaly.. John says this also "1297 Offaly..40 cows of the sister of Walter Lenfaunt robbed. Robbers fled & were followed [this is a serious theft, in comparison to the last – Walter & his immediate family were the wealthiest, plainly"
In Kildare as we discussed before is Walter son of John, Walter son of Walter, John Sr., Thomas, Adam, Alesia Lenfaunt le Gras and William.. Also Gilbert Lenfaunt the goose and chicken thief who we hope is a very distant relative..
Tuesday, June 27, 2017
Living_ DNA Faunt Carrow and my not-so native Irish
Some of my folks who are testing and have tested may like this.. From my Living_DNA test..
As I look though where my markers( equals distant ancestors ) are in history and even pre-history is definitely telling me much of what I want to know..
Firstly I am mostly NOT Native Irish..Look at picture # 3 which is Post Norman Ireland and England..
Yes in the Celtic immigration are vestiges of my ancestry and in the Bronze age.. but it is mostly gone by Norman Invasion..
Living_DNA says they cannot find a Norman "profile" and I can understand that.. I know my Faunts are in Shropshire in 1220 and Ireland working for the Norman Kings in 1250s as knights..They originated after the Ice Age in Sardiana per their "Y DNA( male line) then they are found in Norman France and two of them were still in Ponthieu in the 1350s as Castellans..
I see a lot of Scottish into North Ireland.. some of that I know ( Morehead/Cunningham/McCafferty)
So my Irish came from elsewhere into Ireland with the Normans and Plantations..
The entire Carrow line is Welsh..Was John Carrow from there or even Cornwall? His descendants were in many cases..
I am excited about seeing all my Welsh and those that lived in the Roman Settlements
Enjoying this..
Friday, January 27, 2017
Fridays Faces From the Past - John Cunningham, 5th great Grandfather - Soldier? Looks like it~
My 5th great grandfather whose son Edmund Cunningham was father of Honora Cunningham who married William Fant..John Cunningham may have had a military pension and I have looked for many years to find where my Edmund Cunningham and Brigid Slattery were born-
It seems to have been in Cahir~
And my new ancestor may be Holloway ..
It seems to have been in Cahir~
Monday, July 4, 2016
Military Monday - Barracks in Fethard Tipperary - Ireland to New Jersey - Military Men and Purple Hearts
Barrack Street, Fethard Tipperary
The Military barracks in Fethard was one of the oldest in the country.
It was built on the site of the original Everard Mansion House.The Barton Mansion House was acquired in 1797 and converted into a temporary military barracks, lighted by oil, and used to accommodate two troops of Cavalry. It was converted into proper military barracks in 1805.
The Barracks occupied an extensive area on the North of the Square and was initially occupied by horse-mounted troops. The Barracks proper had a good exercise ground amounting to an area of 15 acres. 2 roods, 0 perches.
Fethard Military Barracks was at one time an outpost of Clonmel, having a Howitzer Battery of the Brigade of the Royal Field Artillery stationed in Clonmel. In latter years it was an outpost of Cahir Military Barracks being occupied by a battery of artillery of the Cahir Brigade Royal Field Artillery.
William Fant, Nailer married Margaret Hickey and had several children here on Kerry Street.He served the Army in some capacity and his sons William and Patrick Faunt and Patrick's sons joined the British Army at 18.
William Faunt son of William the Nailer came to New Jersey with a British Army pension with wife Ellen Lynch and two sons Patrick and Will. Patrick's son George Patrick Faunt fought for the US and died from wounds received in Italy.
Saturday, June 11, 2016
Surname Saturday - Fant Family of Ireland - Military Barracks in the 1850s
McDermott, my Irish researcher and I are connecting family units of the Fant family forward and backward from about 1850, using existing records. He was puzzling over a James Fant in England with mother Catherine.
When I looked at that I found that Catherine Fant was the daughter of a John Fant from Mallow Cork and Ann McLoughland of Londonderry. Catherine somewhat mysteriously has two sons James and John living with her after he father dies in 1857.
He brother Thomas is married with children and her other siblings seem not to marry.
John Fant was a Color Sergeant ( whatever that was) in Parkhurst Barracks located in Isle of Wight. It apparently was a predominantly Irish Regiment as the Colonel Jeremiah Taylor and his son, John B. Taylor was an Ensign.
I suspect these Army records will point to many if not all of my 4th cousin DNA matches who insist they are Welsh. Parkhurst Barracks has 65 pages..I am in.
When I looked at that I found that Catherine Fant was the daughter of a John Fant from Mallow Cork and Ann McLoughland of Londonderry. Catherine somewhat mysteriously has two sons James and John living with her after he father dies in 1857.
He brother Thomas is married with children and her other siblings seem not to marry.
John Fant was a Color Sergeant ( whatever that was) in Parkhurst Barracks located in Isle of Wight. It apparently was a predominantly Irish Regiment as the Colonel Jeremiah Taylor and his son, John B. Taylor was an Ensign.
I suspect these Army records will point to many if not all of my 4th cousin DNA matches who insist they are Welsh. Parkhurst Barracks has 65 pages..I am in.
Monday, May 30, 2016
Mappy Monday - Monday May 30,2106 - Fants of Limerick Cork and Tipperary Ireland
Quite Recent research, (of course utilizing DNA) and extensive records, show strong interconnectedness between Kilbeheny and Kilmallock Limerick Fants and those found in various Tipperary locations and Brigown, Mitchelstown and Fermoy Cork in the late 1700s and into the 1850 period.
The town of Mitchelstown lies close to the point where the counties of Cork, Limerick, and Tipperary all meet. It is located within the poor law union of Mitchelstown. The poor law union lies in County Cork and County Limerick.
The town is in the Cork civil parish of Brigown, and in the Cork barony of Condons & Clangibbon.
Mitchelstown Union is in the baronies of Condons & Clangibbon and Fermoy.
The union was created in 1850, at the end of the famine, carved out of the existing unions of Clogheen (in County Tipperary) and Fermoy.
The town of Mitchelstown lies close to the point where the counties of Cork, Limerick, and Tipperary all meet. It is located within the poor law union of Mitchelstown. The poor law union lies in County Cork and County Limerick.
The town is in the Cork civil parish of Brigown, and in the Cork barony of Condons & Clangibbon.
Mitchelstown Union is in the baronies of Condons & Clangibbon and Fermoy.
The union was created in 1850, at the end of the famine, carved out of the existing unions of Clogheen (in County Tipperary) and Fermoy.
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